Wealth creation gurus

These guys give you direct advice on building wealth, usually combining different investments

Wealth Creation Gurus

The gurus listed and rated below give information and education on wealth creation, using their favourite method or strategy. They explicitly deny giving personal financial advice, to avoid breaching financial services laws.

NOTE: Most of these gurus aren’t licensed financial planners. If you want help and tips finding qualified financial planners go to the BiG Directory, the finance industry Guru Cops below and general Guru Cops.

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Wealth Creation ‘Guru Cops’

These people or organisations may save you time, protect you and your money. Many have useful investing guidelines on building wealth, how to start, and who and what to look out for (scams alerts), and articles.

How to Check Out Wealth creation and Business people | MoneySmart (ASIC), WordofMouth, Not Good Enough The Checkout

Money Smart (Australian Securities and Investment Commission (ASIC)

Word of Mouth They claim “is the No 1 business review site in Australia. It’s a user-generated directory where people share the experiences they have with businesses – both good and bad. Every day, Word of Mouth helps thousands of people find awesome businesses (and avoid dodgy operators). As well as helping consumers get better service, Word of Mouth also helps good businesses stand out from the crowd and be recognised for providing great service. We all know how powerful a recommendation is, but with our busy lives it’s sometimes hard to have that over-the-fence chat with our neighbours to find out where they get their hair cut or their car serviced. But who doesn’t want to hear about a great new restaurant that’s just opened, a fantastic plumber that won’t rip you off, or a dentist that makes the experience pleasant?”

Product Review They claim “is Australia’s first and most comprehensive consumer opinion site, online since May 2003. We provide a platform where people can rate and review services and products and the shops that sell them. It is consumer response – satisfied or not! On this site you will find real-life experiences and opinions voiced by Australians. We provide our users with the tools to easily find the items they are interested in, read what others have said about them and share their own experiences. We believe consumers shape and change products and are the driving force behind innovation. In addition to the obvious value provided to the consumer, our unbiased user experiences also provide manufacturers and retailers insight into consumer trends.”

Not Good Enough  (NGE) They claim “Is an Australian Customer Complaints & Opinions website operating in Australia and New Zealand – and around the world… [it] is Australia’s largest and longest running online consumer advocacy website. … [with] over 54,000 members that discuss a range of products and services, including retailing, financial services, utilities, airlines, hospitality, telcos, as well as politics and social issues.”

The Checkout (ABC TV consumer affairs satirical show) has a list of resources for consumer complaints/organisations. If you have a bad consumer experience, you could always email your gripe or post a video there on F.U.Tube where you can post your own videos and complain about products!

Using Business Lists to Find 'Successful' People in Business, Management and Leadership | Are They Useful?

If you Google the ‘top 50 people in business, management and leadership’ you’ll get lists such as:

In The Strange Nature of Lists, Chris Brogan (on the list) warns ‘try never to be swayed by lists of this nature… I’m still working hard and won’t stop until I’m on the list I most want to occupy: ‘People Who Equipped Me For Success’, and only you can write that list’.

Here are Steve Jobs’ insights on success form 3 perspectives, ‘Trust; Love and Loss; and Death’, Stanford Commencement Speech 2005.

Scamwatch (ACCC - Australian Competition and Consumer Commission)
Scamwatch Australian Competition and Consumer Commission) (ACCC) has useful tips and tricks to avoid:

Australian Skeptics | Science, Medicine and Alternative Medicines |Paranormal and pseudo-scientific claims

Science Based Medicine (UK) They claim ” Exploring issues and controversies in the relationship between science and medicine. Science-Based Medicine is dedicated to evaluating medical treatments and products of interest to the public in a scientific light, and promoting the highest standards and traditions of science in health care. Online information about alternative medicine is overwhelmingly credulous and uncritical, and even mainstream media and some medical schools have bought into the hype and failed to ask the hard questions.”

Australian Skeptics They say “is a loose confederation of groups across Australia that investigate paranormal and pseudo-scientific claims from a responsible scientific viewpoint. Most people are familiar with the more popular subjects that we investigate such as astrology, fortune telling, UFOs and crop circles; But did you know that we also investigate topics like fundamentalism, Feng Shui, subluxations and vitamin supplements? … Test your sceptical knowledge and see how many of the topics on our list are familiar to you.”

Wealth Creation Gurus …

The individuals and companies you come across and see in the table below claim they’re experts in building your wealth. Many are not qualified financial planners. Under BiG’s Traffic Light™ rating system, they’re rated red, yellow or green. There are links to articles and anyone who has contrary ideas “Cons”, or others who support are agree with them “Pros” – people, forums, articles (any I can find). If I get any positive or negative information about them (send yours), they may be re-rated to a different colour.

Note: The ‘about’ column says “They/He/She claims” quoting their marketing blurb, because I’d hate to misrepresent or misquote their claims and unless I’ve explicitly done so, I don’t endorse them.
Click on read more … in the table to open any relevant links to articles, Pros and Cons.

Peter Adeney (USA)
Company: Mr Money Mustache
Strategies: Blog, FIRE, Financial education, Forum, Mentoring, Millenials, Wealth education
He claims: “,,. I’m the freaky financial magician who retired along with a lovely wife at age 30 in order to start a family, as well as start living a great life. We did this on two normal salaries with no lottery winnings or Silicon Valley buyout windfalls, by living what we thought was a wonderful and fulfilling existence. It … Read more »
Robert G Allen [USA]
Company: Multiple Streams of Income
Strategies: Business Coach, Buying wholesale, Personal Development, Property seminars, Speaker, Wealth education
He claims: ‘is the author of some of the most influential financial books of all time, including the New York Times bestsellers Creating Wealth, Nothing Down, Multiple Streams of Income, The One Minute Millionaire, and Cash in a Flash which he coauthored with Mark Victor Hansen. Today there are literally thousands of millionaires who attribute their success to Mr. Allen’s … Read more »
Australian Scholarship Group
Strategies: Investment Bonds, Kids' education
Scott Pape says Steer Clear and suggests  Investment Bonds as an alternative in See How Easily You Can Save for Your Kids’ Education! . They claim: “Whether you plan to send your child to a private, government or systemic (e.g. Catholic) school, the cost of their education will be significant. ASG’s education funds offer a proactive and proven way to offset these costs. … Read more »
Paul Blackburn
Company: Beyond Success
Strategies: Business Coach, Life Coach, Marketing, Mentoring
He claims: “has been helping people to achieve their dreams since 1984… Paul and Mary, decided they wanted to ‘change the world’ by teaching and training others to reach their potential. In more than 30 years they have never wavered from this intention, and today are proud to own Australia’s most influential and successful personal development company.” Read more »
Mark Bouris
Company: Yellow Brick Road Wealth Management
Strategies: Business investing, Entrepreneur, Wealth education
The Mentor Podcast. They claim: “Mark Bouris has established a successful career from building disruptive businesses to challenge the market and provide smarter solutions for consumers. Mark’s current positions include Executive Chairman of Yellow Brick Road Group (ASX:YBR),  Chairman of the SME Association of Australia and Non-Executive Director of Sydney Roosters Football Club and Eastern Suburbs Leagues Club. He is … Read more »
brightday
Company: brightday
Strategies: Superannuation, Wealth education, share market investing and trading, wealth management
They claim: “brightday is a new type of super fund, where super knowledge and super investing come together. It’s a super fund that lets you take control, all online, with guidance when you need it along the way. Everyone’s needs are different and so there’s no “one size fits all”. There’s just a broad range of research and education for … Read more »
Kalen Bruce (USA)
Company: Money Mini Blog USA
Strategies: Financial education, Money Blog
They say: “shows you how to control your finances, create positive habits and get the life you want.” Read more »
Budget my Coin
Strategies: Budgeting
They claim: “is where you come when you need help to get your finances under control. Do you know where your money goes each month? Are you struggling to lead the life you imagined because of your financial situation? …  we aim to provide as much free information on ways to save money as possible. Through our informative and entertaining blog … Read more »
Warren Buffett
Company: Berkshire Hathaway
Strategies: Business investing
… too much to write on the world’s most famous, successful investor – just check out Wikipedia! Read more »
Michael Burnett
Company: Empowernet International
Strategies: Business investing, Personal Development, Property seminars, Wealth education
They claim: “is Australia’s largest and most successful events promoter of large-scale Wealth Creation, Business and Personal Development programs.”     Read more »
Brad Chaffee (USA)
Company: Enemy of Debt
Strategies: Debt, Managing money
He says: “I founded EOD in April of 2008 in an effort to motivate and inspire financial discipline by focusing on behavior and truth. Our behavior decides our outcome and the truth is what most people avoid. By teaching personal responsibility, debt free principles, and the importance of planning people can learn how to take control of their finances one … Read more »
Tom Corley (USA)
Company: Rich Habits Institute
Strategies: Mentoring, Personal Development, Self development, Wealth education
He claims: “Tom Corley is an internationally recognized authority on habits and wealth creation. His inspiring keynote addresses cover success habits of the rich, failure habits of the poor and cutting edge habit change strategies. Tom has spoken alongside Richard Branson, Robin Sharma, Dr. Daniel Amen and many other notable speakers. In Tom’s five-year study of the rich and poor … Read more »
Jim Cramer (USA)
Company: Mad Money CNBC
Strategies: Stock market education, Wealth education
They say: “Mad Money with Jim Cramer takes viewers inside the mind of one of Wall Street’s most respected and successful money managers. Cramer is your personal guide through the confusing jungle of Wall Street investing, navigating through opportunities and pitfalls with one goal in mind — to help you make money … For years I have been trying to … Read more »
Julio De Laffitte
Company: JDL Strategies
Strategies: Financial planning, Wealth education
They claim: “JDL Strategies helps everyday Australians build long-term wealth through low-risk investments and customised strategies that work .Through memberships, webinars, live events, blogs, educational platforms, one-on-one coaching and consultations, our quest to raise the financial intelligence of everyday Australians is at the heart and soul of everything we do. Identifying a gap in the market more than two decades … Read more »
Jack Delosa
Company: The Entourage and MBE Education
Strategies: Education, Entrepreneurship
They claim: “is a movement that is changing the world through a new kind of business education. Passionate about the importance of doing the work you love, we impact the lives of our community every day by educating them to build the life and business of their dreams. Founded by entrepreneur, Jack Delosa in 2010, The Entourage was born out … Read more »
John Demartini
Company: Demartini Institite
Strategies: Human behaviour, Motivation, Personal Development
Associates: Jack Delosa (Aus) see video interview Living Your Highest Values He claims: “Human Behavior Specialist, Educator, Business Consultant and Internationally Published Author  Dr Demartini is considered one of the world’s leading authorities on human behavior and personal development. He is the founder of the Demartini Institute, a private research and education organization with a curriculum of over 72 different courses … Read more »
T. Harv Ekar (USA)
Strategies: Blog, Life Coach, Mindset coach
Blog: Million Dollar Life Lessons He claims: “[He] went from zero to millionaire in only 2 1/2 years! He combines a unique brand of ‘street-smarts with heart’. Eker’s high-energy, ‘cut-to-the-chase’ style keeps his audience spellbound. T. Harv Eker’s motto is “talk is cheap” and his unique ability is getting people to take “action” in the real world to produce real success. … Read more »
Keily Fabe
Strategies: Networking, Training, Women and Business
They claim: “is an Award Winning Network and Training Organisation Empowering Women, Teens and Entrepreneurs to grow and excel in their circle of influence. Since our launch in April 2008 we have had the privilege of empowering thousands of Women, receiving the Queensland Premier’s Award in 2011 for our ‘Outstanding Contribution to Women’. Our Logo…the ‘Glass Stiletto Shoe’ represents women … Read more »
Sandy Forster
Company: Wildly Wealthy Women
Strategies: Business Coach, Business investing, Mentoring, Personal Development, Wealth education, Women and Business
Previous Associate: Dymphna Boholt Cons: The High Court rules that a series of Today Tonight’s stories on the get-rich-quick scheme amount to misleading and deceptive conduct.The Law Report |ABC Radio National; Farewell to Wild, Wealthy Women Sunshine Coast Daily. She claims: “is an engaging speaker who shares her message with passion and enthusiasm. She is inspiring, motivating and uplifting. She will empower you, your seminar … Read more »
Randy Gage (USA)
Strategies: Business Coach, Mindset coach
He claims: “is a thought-provoking critical thinker who will make you approach your business — and your life — in a whole new way. Randy is the author of eleven books translated into 25 languages, including the New York Times bestsellers, Risky Is the New Safe and Mad Genius. He has spoken to more than 2 million people across more than … Read more »
Jon Giannopoulos (also Giaan)
Company: Knowledge Source
Strategies: Financial education, Personal Development, Property investing and Renovation education, Wealth education
Cons: Knowledge Source / Scammers; Jon Giann and Dymphna Boholt and Knowledge Source / Jon Giann scammer beware  Complaints Board; Investment spruikers catch ASIC eye Money Management He claims: “is a self-confessed dreamer, an advocate of financial freedom, a passionate wealth seeker and a mad multi-millionaire property investor with an unquenchable thirst for self-education and knowledge. And not just any type of knowledge, but … Read more »
Nik Halik
Company: Financial Freedom Institute 5 Day Weekend
Strategies: Business Coach, Business investing, Wealth education
He claims: “[he] is the founder and CEO of Financial Freedom Institute, Lifestyle Revolution and 5 Day Weekend®. He became a multi-millionaire and amassed great wealth through savvy investments in property, business and the financial markets. Nik’s group of companies have financially educated and life coached over 1 Million clients in over 57 countries. Nik generates passive income, building recurring … Read more »
Roger Hamilton
Company: Wealth Dynamics
Strategies: Business Coach, Entrepreneur, Wealth education
He claims: ” … is a world renowned futurist and social entrepreneur. He is the Founder of Entrepreneurs Institute and the creator of GeniusU, Wealth Dynamics & Talent Dynamics, used by over 700,000 entrepreneurs to follow their flow.” Read more »
Mike Handcock
Company: Rock your life
Strategies: Business Coach, Education, Financial education, Personal Development
He claims: “Founder of Rock Your Life, Epic Events, Soul Journeys and Rock Your Life Media & Publishing, Mike Handcock is a best selling author of 14 books. An ex senior manager of a large corporate Mike specialises in Strategy and has worked with over 250,000 entrepreneurs in 46 Countries.” Read more »
Peter Hann (USA)
Company: The Simple Dollar USA
Strategies: Finance blog, Financial education, Wealth education
They say: “The Simple Dollar began as a community for people to learn and share real-life personal finance strategies. While the team continues to grow, our mission remains the same: providing well-researched, useful recommendations and advice that empowers our readers to make smart financial decisions. In addition to the finance blog that made us famous, we now offer comprehensive guides … Read more »
Scott Harris
Strategies: Business Coach, Business investing, Entrepreneur, Speaker
He claims: “… Australia’s ‘Millionaire Mentor’ & the Founder of Ultimate Coach & Ultimate Expert For more than 20 years Scott Harris has been coaching, mentoring & speaking to individuals, businesses & large audiences to help them create great success; financially, physically & emotionally. Delivering profound powerful coaching & mentoring programs around the world, Scott has reached out to thousands of … Read more »
Christopher Howard (USA)
Strategies: Entrepreneur, Life Coach, Mentoring, Personal Development, Speaker, Wealth education
He claims: “is the Founder and President of The Christopher Howard Companies, and he is one of the world’s leading authorities on the psychology of wealth and accelerated personal achievement. Described as ‘The Richard Branson of personal and professional development’, Chris is an electrifying speaker who has captivated audiences in the United States and worldwide. Chris is also an International Best … Read more »
Bobby Hoyt (USA)
Company: Millenial Man
He claims: ‘Ex-teacher and Debt Destroyer … If you’re just wondering what investing, side-hustle helpers, and money saving products I use, check out my recommended page. If you want to start a blog and have a killer work-life balance like me, see my free “how to create a blog” guide. If you want to save money on your student loans check … Read more »
Bernard Kelly
Strategies: Business Coach, Financial education
He claims: “is the author of the Internationally bestselling book Flipping Burgers to Flipping Millions. Passion stands out, and Bernard Kelly is deeply passionate about three things: McDonald’s, financial freedom and success. From his first day on the job, cooking French fries at the age of eighteen, he has been fascinated with the systems that drive the most successful restaurant … Read more »
Michael Kemp
Strategies: Education, Financial education, Wealth education
He claims: “has worked both as a money market dealer and in Corporate Finance both in Australia and overseas. Michael released his first book in 2010 titled “Creating Real Wealth” and is currently working as an analyst with the Barefoot team [Scott Pape The Barefoot Investor]. Michael’s passion relates to personal finance with an emphasis on stock market investment. Michael … Read more »
Ben Kingsley
Company: Empower Wealth Advisory Group
Strategies: Financial planning, Mortgage broker, Property investing, Speaker, Superannuation, wealth management
They claim: “are a team of qualified, experienced advisors who specialise in their area and provide tailored, independent property investment advice along with fully integrated buyers agent, mortgage broking and financial planning services, to best meet our clients’ needs. It’s our goal to help our clients achieve the lifestyle goals they dream of. [Ben] is the founding Director of Empower Wealth … Read more »
Loral Langmeyer (USA)
Company: Live Out Loud
Strategies: Financial education, Speaker, Wealth education
Cons: Loral Langemeier Reviews Reviewopedia; Pinellas couple sues company that promised to make them millionaires; A Review of The Millionaire Maker by Loral Langemeier She claims: “is a money expert, sought after speaker, entrepreneurial thought leader, and best-selling author of five books who is on a relentless mission to change the conversation about money and empower people around the world to become millionaires.” Read more »
Joanna Martin
Company: One of many Shift Lifestyle Shift Speaker Training
Strategies: Business Coach, Personal Development, Women and Business, Women and investing
” One of Many – Like any company, we come from many. We are women and men grounded in the experiences of business, education, success, childbirth, health, relationships and have higher education in “life in general”. We are authentic; we promise to be what we say we are, and do what we say we can. We are open minded; we are on a … Read more »
Roy McDonald
Company: OneLife
Strategies: Business Coach, Business investing, Property seminars, Wealth education
Cons: One Life AussieScamAlert; Claims of too much cuddling land wealth adviser in spotlight SMH; ACTION NEEDED AGAINST ROBBERS – NOW Enough buck-passing, it’s time for action Denise Braily. He claims: “is a Self Made Millionaire and Director of 49 different structures and interests in more than 24 companies. This includes an Accounting Firm, a Financial Planning Company, a Real Estate Business, a Development and Construction … Read more »
Tony Melvin
Company: Boom University
Strategies: Business Coach, Business investing
He claims: ‘Born in the UK in 1973, Tony Melvin grew up with a passion for business. He founded his first “enterprise” around the age of 10 years old: a car washing business. His younger sister Catherine and friend Julia were the hired help. Tony was the salesman. Despite the business having only one client and lasting only a single … Read more »
George Mihos
Company: George Mihos Today Not Tomorrow Institute
Strategies: Education, Wealth education
Contrarians: Jenman: My Brother and George Mihos and Sham testimonials “… was one of the youngest players ever in the National Soccer League. His life changed overnight at the age of 20, when his young cousin was diagnosed with leukemia and given just six months to live. Her death inspired George to think deeply about the meaning his own life. The journey took … Read more »
Millennial Revolution (Canada)
Company: Millennial Revolution
Strategies: Blog, FIRE-Financially Independent Retire Early, Financial education, Wealth education
They Claim: ‘FIRE (Financial Independence Retire Early) site started by two computer engineers/children’s authors, FIRECracker & Wanderer, who retired at 31 to travel the world!WHAT’S THIS SITE ALL ABOUT? Okay, by a show of hands, who loves working a stressful, hateful job for 30-40 years, to pay off a massive mortgage, only to die of a heart-attack at your desk or … Read more »
Roger Montgomery
Company: Montgomery Investment Management Pty Ltd
Strategies: Fund manager, Stock market investor
Pros: Alan Kohler has referred to Roger as “one of the nations smartest and most successful value investors” and Ross Greenwood has described him as “one of Australia’s best-regarded stock market investors” and as a man who “invests well, not often”. Of Value.able, Ross Greenwood wrote, “Value.able is a hidden gem. For people who want to understand how to genuinely … Read more »
Kerr Neilson
Company: Platinum Asset Management
Strategies: Managed funds, Superannuation, share market investing and trading, wealth management
They claim: “It is common for investors to choose to invest their savings across different types of assets: cash, shares, government bonds, and real estate; and many choose to entrust their savings to fund managers to benefit from different strategies and styles of investing. Platinum is an Australia-based investment manager that focuses on one asset class – international shares, or, … Read more »
Brendan Nichols
Strategies: Business Coach, Online business, Wealth education
He claims: “Want Proven Techniques that work Online or Offline?  Are You Interested in Getting Out of the Rat Race & Having a Life?” Read more »
Greg Owen
Company: Goko Group
Strategies: Event organising, Managing Professional Speakers, Publishing
Scott Pape
Company: The Barefoot Investor
Strategies: Financial education, Wealth education, share market investing and trading
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Kerwin Rae
Company: Business Mastery International
Strategies: Business Coach, Business Seminars, Entrepreneur, Marketing, Mentoring, Social media, Wealth education
Product: Fast Growth Summit He claims: “For small to medium-sized business owners who are dissatisfied with their lack of results or who simply want to accelerate growth. We specialize in educating, training and supporting business owners to identify, plan and manage your marketing, sales and strategic planning in order to grow your business fast. We provide you the tools, strategies, … Read more »
Vicki Robin
Company: Your Money or Your Life
Strategies: Communication, Finance blog, Money and Relationships, Sustainable living, Wealth education
They claim: “Vicki Robin is a prolific [US] social innovator, writer and speaker. She is coauthor with Joe Dominguez of the international best-seller, Your Money or Your Life: Transforming Your Relationship With Money and Achieving Financial Independence (Viking Penguin, 1992, 1998, 2008). It was an instant NY Times best seller in 1992 and steadily appeared on the Business Week Best … Read more »
Kris Sayce
Company: Port Phillip Publishing Money Morning
Strategies: Education, Financial education, Wealth education
They claim: ‘Money Morning … Australia’s most outspoken financial news service – Money Morning – isn’t afraid to tell it like it is. From calling politicians out on the big issues, to taking the mighty housing industry on single handedly, Money Morning exists to cut through the hype and BS and help you make sense of the stories that REALLY make … Read more »
Peter Spann
Strategies: Business Coach, Business investing, Property investing, Speaker
Cons: Peter Spann’s Freeman Fox finally loses licence. Why not when reported to ASIC in 2005? Slack Regulators Denise Brailey BFCSA; Regulator implored to examine top wealth creator ABC News. He claims: ‘… works with you to build the business you want. A business that you are proud of. That is doing good things. That is making a significant profit. A business that … Read more »
Peter Thornhill
Company: Motivated Money
Strategies: Financial education, Share market education, Speaker, Stock market analyst
They claim: ‘give[s] people the knowledge to make informed investment decisions. Its principal, Peter Thornhill has delivered 1000’s of presentations over the years to all types of investors. Peter helps people achieve an exciting dream in a very boring way. In his words “ I prefer the safety and security of the sharemarket to risky assets like term deposits.” Does … Read more »
Stuart Wemyss
Company: Pro Solution Private Clients
Strategies: Financial planning, Property investing education, wealth management
They claim: “Our goal is to help our clients achieve their financial and lifestyle goals by providing independent advice using evidenced-based financial strategies. Our ultimate reward is when our clients reflect upon the journey we have shared with them and they acknowledge the valuable advice we have provided along the way. In short, helping you achieve your goals ultimately becomes … Read more »
Ann Wilson
Company: Financial Freedom University
Strategies: Money management, Property investing education, Wealth education, share market investing and trading, wealth management
They claim: “GET YOUR MONEY WORKING HARD FOR YOU SO YOU DON’T HAVE TO Living a wealthy and abundant life isn’t just about working hard to make money. It’s about getting your money, however much you have, to work hard for you. Whether you are drowning in debt, want to increase your income, decrease your expenses or reduce your liabilities, you … Read more »
David Wright
Company: Zenith Investment Partners
Strategies: Financial research, Investment research
He claims: ‘ is a managing partner and joint founder of Zenith Investment Partners – the research business he established in 2002. He has over 22 years’ investment industry experience, and is heavily involved in all aspects of the Zenith business, including manager research, model portfolio construction and participation in client investment committee meetings. Prior to establishing Zenith, David held research positions … Read more »

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